altarflame: (deluge)
I really love the work and musings of many people who grew up steeped in rich, devout and/or orthodox religion... and then turned away from it. Anne Rice, Dan Savage, and Tori Amos are my most prominent and famous examples, but it's a LOT of people. It's sort of...my thing*. And what I see, over and over again, is that these people are often judged by their modern, secular, left wing followers for harkening back to their faithful childhoods or their old family traditions. The echoes and pangs of longing for deeper meaning and rituals that they still have, mixed in with the existentialism and the secular humanism they've embraced, just seem boring to the audiences they've attracted. Tiresome.

The audiences they've built by turning away don't want to hear about all the shit they turned away from.

But I do. I love it when they talk about it. I will never get tired of Anne Rice's never ending spiritual struggles and internal tug-o-war, because it calls to my own and does it in a deeply cathartic way. When Dan Savage talks about his seemingly pointless visits to his old church or the ache he's got, for his dead mother to be in Heaven, I am there, weeping, putting it on repeat. Tori's Christmas album made a lot of people just turn en masse and walk away, from her, for good. It gives me goosebumps, all fraught with myths and pagan origins and laced with theology like it is. I dig it back out every year. People called her a sellout for getting married, too, but I just wanted to hear what she had to say about it.

I think part of what makes each of these people (not just the three I'm actually describing but the others I'm thinking of, as well) as awesome as they are, as complex and appreciative of small things and as searching for MORE, as they are - is having been raised steeped in religion. I think there is real, quantifiable, scientifically provable value in being raised with religion and ritual. This, for what it's worth, is something I feel I lack as a person who finds consistency life's greatest challenge and routines to be the kiss of death.

I mean, we see the benefits of prayer, and faith, and habits, and church community - on happiness and on the immune system - but more than that I see that my own children have got better attention spans... They are able to sit still and be polite, and to just participate in adult situations, partially because of all those years in church. They have better, less gift-focused attitudes about Christmas and Easter than they might, because of the depth of what those days were presented as being about, and the multitude of ways we celebrated (special masses, special books and stories, special candles and decorations in our houses, all kinds of things).

Of course, being steeped in religion also makes you nuts, and drives you to art through frustration and angst, and the taboo of asking unavoidable questions vs the denial of avoiding them, and a vicious guilt/shame cycle. All that, I did manage to give myself in spades with just late adolescent and young adult devoutness.

Que sera sera, am I right?

I am eager to see the world move on from patriarchy, and from the violent and enraged reactions that variations on the gender binary get met with. I'm in love with the priorities that emerge, and the shifts in perspective that happen, for individuals and for society, when you lift the filter of Judeo-Christian values off of your eyes and look around with nothing but honesty and evidence to guide you through daily life and human interactions. I naturally gravitate towards very existential, black humor where nothing is sacred.

I'm also impossibly sad about the idea idea of a world where nothing is sacred. The jokes without the sanctity to make you gasp at them are just banal, just empty, just...not even funny anymore. I don't want to live in a world without monasteries, without altars to light candles on. It seems like too big a loss to bear, and I don't even know why.

It makes me very happy to know that a woman half a mile from my house is living in her saint-studded house with her seven children, and that they go to Mass and take communion every single morning. I don't want that life. For me or for my kids. But I'm glad she's living it, in a way that doesn't infringe on me. I'm not saying it makes sense. I'm telling the truth. I'm afraid of Anne Rice's son, and Dan Savage's son, and Tori Amos' daughter all growing up as people who don't really get what their parents were on about. All the while realizing it would be horribly wrong for any of them to impose things on their kids that tormented them, themselves, so intensely.

I'm glad there is a Buddhist temple and a Schoenstatt shrine within a few miles of me, filled 24/7 with monks and sisters respectively, despite it being 2013. I like knowing they're there, around the clock, studying old wisdom and leading chants and prayers. I like knowing they're open whenever I might want to stop by, as I ignore them completely.


*Incidentally, Anne Rice's assistant is a former monk turned heathen/heathen's assistant, because it's totally her THING, too. Becket seems really awesome.
altarflame: (eat lard)
There is a lot of very compelling ecumenism in my religion class - which I raved about here - that makes me think. One Saturday was all about "health and spirituality", citing studies that show things like open heart surgery patients being three times more likely to survive if they depend on a (any) religion, and the increased immune function of people who attend (any) religious services weekly. The lists of pros to being spiritual even in a philosophical (Buddhist, for instance) or solitary (meditation and feng shui) way is extremely long, and significant to (at least what I see as) quality of life - decreased stress, sense of connectedness, supportive community, meaning in loss, and a bunch of other things I can't remember right now.

We watched Baraka, and I was genuinely shocked to find we were looking at the inside of a Sufi (mysticism of Islam) temple in the middle east, because I had been sure it was Orthodox (mysticism of) Christianity - the priests dress the same, with the same hair and beards, and carry the same swinging incense past candles and everyone is kissing things and they have something locked up front that looks just like a tabernacle.

I sometimes find all this not in conflict with Christianity and very comforting overall; other times it seems to speak to a larger truth I can't quite put my finger on, but have been pondering over for years. Then it all blurs.

I'm sitting here staring at the word "larger" in the last paragraph.




(Sorry for the weird angles in a couple of these)

The mushroom soup I mentioned last night, full of spring onions and garlic and chicken and beef broths...I puree some of it and add it back in at the end. Yum.


We went over to Kristin's for the afternoon/evening last Saturday. Grant was working on her chicken coop and she made awesomely delicious spring rolls for us.

Chopped veggies.


Plus sprouts and boiled up rice noodles and a pack of spinach just out of the shot.


Kristin wrapping, Aaron and Oliver soaking more rice paper wrappers.






It's hard to be patient, especially when the cooks are taking their sweet time chatting and changing the music and feeding things to the bird.


She crushed a bunch of garlic and ginger into some soy sauce, too, and got out some rooster sauce. Kristin's big on presentation, there is lots more sauce out of the shot.

Mmm, pocky.



Kids love them!


Especially with fancy little glasses of pink tea.



More to come...
altarflame: (Christ)
I've been thinking tonight about the anger and bitterness that confront Christianity on the internet, and the scorn it's met with in intellectual circles, and wondering why I don't relate to that negativity better. Even when (perhaps especially when) I doubt my faith, it's still beautiful to me. It's still a positive thing, a light in the darkness. I'm trying to figure this out.

I don't like Jerry Falwell, I hate the right wing politicians that are trying to limit access to birth control and keep gay people from having rights. But I feel like saying Christianity is bad because there are assholes using it to justify their assholery is like saying science is bad because it gave us carcinogenic pesticides, nerve gas and the atomic bomb. How many people have tortured innocents in the name of psychiatry, especially during centuries past where people could be locked up on bullshit charges and tortured and experimented on - that doesn't make psychiatry bad. It was just misused. Assholes are bad.

I understand there is a provability factor here when we're talking about science/psych vs religion.

But...I feel like Christanity is mostly good, even if it were to be (theologically) "fake". I think many people coming together in faith for beliefs is beautiful, not sad (Yes, this includes other faiths). I think prayer, meditation, study, worship and so on are generally very good things, mentally purging and stress reducing. I think examining your conscience and trying to adhere to high moral standards is generally a step in the right direction for most people. Though I don't know, it definitely SEEMS that charitable giving and volunteerism within the church (and all belief systems - I just mean organized religious charity and volunteering) constitute a huge percentage of the overall giving and volunteerism that happens in the world.

Sometimes I think (with young people especially) there is a trendy, media-conception type superiority you're just "supposed" to have towards even taboo words like bible, Jesus, etc, that goes WAY beyond the genuine, understandable defensive reaction some people have because they've been hurt by other Christians or even by Christian institutions - it's this embarassment factor wrapped up in total ignorance to the faith, like you have to really be a real douche bag nowadays to admit to something like going to confession. What I'm saying is even people who know next to nothing about confession or why anyone would want to do it, with no real life connection of any sort to Catholicism, feel this way as a knee-jerk reaction because our society tells them they're supposed to.

This "crutch" thing, too, I have known at least two people who thought religion in general was some kind of pathetic, laughable, horrible (dun dun DUN!!!) CRUTCH...to which I say yeah isn't that about a million times better than drugs, alcoholism, (insert self destructive alternative crutch here)? The 12 Step program is one of the only methods that's ever been shown to really work in treating addiction and a big part of that is the whole higher power spiel. Is that somehow...wrong? I really don't think so.

This NPR story references plenty of other stories and makes for a pretty extensive amount of reading (that is easily picked through for what you deem the interesting parts) on why prayer and meditation make us better able to focus and happier, and how our brains are wired for religious experiences to a degree - among other things.

Once I got to be a teenager, I wished I had been raised with some religious education and identity. It seemed to be a rich heritage like having a strong cultural identity, something deep and personal to add to your sense of self that is missing for most American youth, who are raised without ethnicity or faith and have things like television shows to make gifs out of and feel like they belong to something when arcane 70s/80s/90s references are understood...

I also think that the vehement degree to which the separation of church and state is enforced has made for this weird gap in our educational process where we can't teach judeo-christianity as part of social studies or history from even an objective or skeptical perspective because that's seen as "preaching" to public school kids... but it's a HUGE massive crazy part of social studies and history, man! I mean we are rigorous about teaching kids Egyptian burial rituals and Greek mythology, and at least give alternative religions and the major faiths in other countries a passing nod, but not the basic tenets of the Judeo-Christian faiths or course of church history? When they live in THIS society? That is a pretty bizarre ignorance handicap to leave kids with in the name of not offending anybody. The King James Bible used to be in Literature books just like Shakespeare (meaning, not held up as anything sacred or hallowed but included due to historical relevance and for cultural context clues) and it's still just as referenced and just as relevant in popular culture, but there are gonna be millions of middle schoolers who don't know anything about the character Judas but what Lady GaGa is telling them.

Anyway. Slightly off topic, but segueing smoothly enough, I am feeling really good about involving my kids in and teaching them about Lent and Holy Week and Easter right now. As I've talked about before, I basically refuse to tell them certain politically charged and hard to live with things, doctrine-wise, that I struggle with myself. But I find that those things are only an issue in some kind of large scale, media-drenched debate sort of way. We definitely don't hear about the evils of homosexuality or shunning anyone at our church. These are beautiful, meaningful masses and when you participate in them, you're doing it with millions of other people around the world, just as they've been done for thousands of years. Which is...really awesome, any way I look at it. St Louis is such a sincere and personable place to be.

I love that my kids can and do sit through Mass well, and even appreciate it and feel moved by parts. When I took them to see Seraphic Fire, the guy at the door tried to warn me that it really wasn't for kids under 10, and I was like Ha! They did great, too. Isaac got fidgety towards the end and that was really it. I hate the idea of my kids being so fried from big screen 3D IMAX movies and playing on the Wii that they can't pay attention to anything slow-paced or subtle.

Sidenote: I've realized that part of my new irritation with Protestant..ism? is that it makes Christianity seem ridiculous. With the stupid quirky joke lines on the signs out front (God sent the first text message - THE BIBLE! Be an organ donor - give your heart to Jesus!) and the horrible "contemporary Christian" music and the spoofs of pop culture things and the "down to earth, right there with you" trying too hard thing, meant to draw in a secular audience, just...UGH MAN UGH! All of it is so dumb and even embarassing. You just don't get any of that within Catholicism or Orthodoxy. I love VBS for my kids because it's fun and free and they make friends, but really whether it's the "Australian surfer" themed week of Jesus or the "Christianity to the XTreme" year (all with appropriate dorky tshirts, worksheets, posters, snacks and flyers that all come in a big sealed box you order), I don't really expect them to have some transformative spiritual experience.

I think that sort of Protestant marketing is probably a lot of the automatic cultural youth stigma against Christianity, actually. They make it seem so STUPID and lame, with the best of intentions...how can anyone - especially unexposed people on the outside - take that kind of crap seriously? I have to look past it, with all my history and desires...

This is just me thinking out loud. The whole entry. Stream of consciousness. I don't have a big point I'm leading up to. I just really enjoyed being at church for the 3rd time this week, tonight, and am looking forward to going back tomorrow, in this satisfying "feeding my soul" sort of way and have been seeing a lot of hate everytime I get online.
altarflame: (Guess What?)
I had a huuuuuuuuuuuuge headache earlier, partially from the rigors of trying to wrap my head around what I do or do not think is "right" for mothers to do while they're mothers.

The thing is, I don't generally go around thinking mothers are bad. I generally go around really, REALLY happy whenever I see parents with loved and well-adjusted kids. I have a heavy lot of exposure to moms who ditch their kids for years at a time to keep partying while the grandparents do the legwork, stepping back in only for the occassional drunken visit that ends with a call to the cops. No, really. More than one of these chicks between Grant and I's families, with 9 kids between the two of them. I myself grew up in some questionable circumstances. When I see a young single mom trying to find good childcare for while she's working and playing with the baby when she's off, I feel good about that.

But, of course, like everybody, I still have my ideas about what is "ideal", and they play heavily into the choices I make in my own life, for my own kids, with my own set of resources.

So when someone is in the public eye and requesting my vote, I can't help but analyze them in a way I wouldn't the average joe on the street. And in this case, the Sarah Palin case, it seemed really knee-jerk reaction obvious to me that someone with relative financial wealth, a 4 month old Downs baby AND four other kids probably shouldn't be spending 16 hours a day campaigning for a 16 hour a day job.

There are SO many ways to look at this, though. Maybe she sees a spot in the White House as an amazing opportunity to further awareness, research and funding - as well as plain old acceptance - of Down Syndrome, thusly having the potential to HUGELY improve her new son's life.

Maybe she's generally concerned about the state of the nation and/or world to such a degree that she feels she has to step up and do whatever has to be done to ensure her kids' long term safety and security.

Whatever the case, I've now seen two different pictures of her - one at her desk signing things and one on some steps speaking to a crowd - with the kid in a sling. I've learned that when she went back to work 3 days after giving birth, it was with the baby and his dad in tow. She's still nursing, which is commendable for anyone with a Downs baby as they have some major nursing hurdles that often make it impossible. There's also a shot of her holding him in a grocery store talking to some people.

Anyway, 3 pictures don't mean anything, but neither does my snap judgement or what I read on Yahoo! News that was 11 minutes old or a YouTube video someone edited down and presented in a certain context...I don't think anyone can know what her motives are, what kind of mother she is, any of it. I like it that she seems to really love and accept her kid, special needs and all. I like it that she went ahead and had him, knowing the difficulties that lay ahead. I like it that she's obviously making some big inconvenient efforts to keep him as close as possible while she works at the high powered job. I like it that she has 5 kids at all, because DAMN am I tired of the "Are they all yours?!" "Wow, how many - two, three, four - FIVE?!" "How do you do it - you must have your hands full!!" bs I have to hear from everyone I see in the grocery store.

And the great irony is that for all this thought I've put into her suitability for the role given her personal life - I still am up in the air about her politics! And, it hardly matters, because I still don't like McCain, who is the one actually running!

So, before I redirect you all back to the 24 hour old picture post you SHOULD be paying attention to ;) I would just like to add another topic for discussion that might make us all want to tear our hair out. Well, maybe it will make some of you want to post to stupid_free, who can know :p

Topic:
How do you, or how do you assume I, or how do you plan to (you pick) address children (of one's own) about controversial or subjective matters?

For instance, your kid overhears CNN and asks, "What is 'abortion'?" Or your Jewish child wants to know why other people wear cross necklaces. Or whatever.

I'm asking because I've realized a LOT of people assume that a homeschooling, Christian mother would be "brainwashing" their children in an effort to shield them from alternate ways of thinking and manipulate the odds that their kid will grow up agreeing with their own viewpoint.

Jumping right in to answer, when my kids asked what abortion is I told them in brief, generalized terms what it was, and then went on to say how I feel about it and how other people feel about it. To wit:

Ananda: What is abortion?
Me: *sigh* It's a medical procedure where a pregnant woman goes into the doctor and gets everything taken out of her uterus, so she isn't pregnant anymore.
Aaron: You mean the baby?
Me: The baby, or fetus, or whatever, and all the other stuff in there - the amniotic fluid and some blood clots and whatever.
Ananda: What do they do with it then?
Me: They throw it away.
Both: Screams of outrage, freaking out.
Me: I think it's wrong. I think it's killing the baby -
Ananda: BECAUSE IT IS!!!
Me: But a lot of other people don't think so, they think the baby isn't really alive until it's born, and so a woman should have the right to choose what happens to her own body and say whether she wants to have a baby or not.
Aaron: How can the baby not be alive when it's kicking?
Me: Well usually it's before there's kicking. Not always. But yeah, there is still a heartbeat and all that. I mean, I believe it is alive from the time it first exists, I believe God gives that new life a soul as soon as the cells come together -
Ananda: So do I.
Me: But not everyone even believes in God, and plenty of people think it's just a group of cells. It doesn't look like a baby yet.
Aaron: But it WOULD be a baby!
Me: I feel the same way, Bud. This is huge all over the country right now because everyone has a different opinion about it and they all feel really, really strongly. It's really hard to be 16 and pregnant, or pregnant with a baby you don't think you can afford to feed, or just pregnant when you weren't ready to have a baby, so some people feel like they can't deal with it. I don't think that is the baby's fault - I don't think it's right to punish a baby for what's going on in the woman's life. But it's a LOT, to be pregnant and have a baby. You saw me in and out of the hospital, it's a big deal that really changes you and puts a lot of risk on you.
Aaron: I can't believe that even happens, like what kind of doctor would do that? (looking near tears) I mean why can't they do what (person he cares about who was adopted who I won't name)'s mom did so the baby can still get a good family?

etc.

This is how we go about just about every conversation involving anything subjective. I wonder often if it would seem wrong to other Christian parents who think I should be telling my kids it's murder and a sin plain and simple, or if it would piss of the pro-choicers who think I'm conveying my biases loud and clear through my own beliefs, expressions, tone, history, etc etc. Probably both, I have a knack for that ;) But you know, we were at my friend Kristin's house the other day, and she is an Agnostic with pagan leanings. Her son was saying, "God!" about something and Aaron was like, "You shouldn't say that, it's bad to say the Lord's name in vain, it's like a curse word but way worse". The friend got mad and told me and Kristin "Aaron was yelling at him" (which he wasn't, but I think he just used it to mean "correcting me" or "scolding" or whatever). And I was like, "We believe in God and that it is wrong to say, so that's how Aaron feels and what he's used to. But you can just tell him, you don't believe in God, and so you don't think there's anything wrong with it. Or you can choose to not say it around him if you want to respect his beliefs. Or you can just let it go and he'll forget about it in a minute because that's how he is."

Later on, Aaron brought it up at home, saying he wanted to tell Darian that because he knows Darian doesn't believe in God and he thought it would be important to teach him about it so he can choose for himself. I told him that's his perogative, and I think it's kind of cool, but lots of other people are going to think it's really annoying and so if he's going to take that upon himself he needs to be ready for some people to get mad at him or not want to talk to him as much. Also, that it's Darian's house and so if it really makes Darian uncomfortable, he needs to just drop it.

I am always kind of shocked when I overhear some of the Catholic or Mormon parents I know saying things in these very absolute and rigid terms to children who've never heard of them before. Like, "evolution is wrong and liars believe it, but God is going to punish them". That sort of thing seriously makes me kind of shake my head and drop my jaw and blink a bunch of times. I regularly hang out with a VASTLY arrayed bunch of people...these last couple of weeks I hung out with Mormon homeschoolers, Catholic homeschoolers, the agnostic/Pagan family I mentioned, people at the non-denominational protestant church where the kids go to AWANA, our lesbian nanny, our VERY old fashioned and supersticious granite guy, my Baptist plumber neighbor, and our old high school friend Angel who is a major partying, apathetic, video game playing, womanizing somebody that seems to think it's still high school. And Shaun - who is probably the weirdest guy to anyone reading this, he's a film editor and a lapsed cradle catholic and a philosophy spouting investor...who thought we should get a houseboat to the point that he got us a personalized life ring for our deck - but I digress.

The point is it really takes me aback how everyone spouts their stuff like facts, in hushed tones of conspiracy that say it's assumed I obviously agree with them. And it makes me wonder how each of these groups sees me, and if it even matters, and by the way, how in the world were some people SURPRISED that I think mothers should stay home if they can, in that last post? Did anyone really think otherwise before I said it (this time)?

Anyway, no point. Go look at the pictures if you haven't -
From the 27th - http://altarflame.livejournal.com/327413.html
From the 29th - http://altarflame.livejournal.com/327803.html

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